everything that makes us pres perous and they also imperil us. >> and going to the atm machine . to do standard banking and all sorts of things we take for granted and super market scanners can beed bypass a cyber attack. >> everything you do depends on information security . in 2007, some hackers attacked want count reap of estonia and 97 percent of the people do electronic banking. >> and this week hackers had gotin into even the wall street journal and the new york times . i am sure when they got in want new york times they didn't find anything worth while. but a they got into the accounts was bush 41 and 43. that is scary stuff. the gate code to former president bush's house they were able to hack that. that is frightening, isn't it? >> llet me frighten you. our defense system are intruded on . names in public that speak to very serious intrusions in our system necessary real life. we do exercises all of the time to see how secure our exercises are. we have a lot of room for improvement. >> how can we stop it? >> i think unfortunately we have had legislative grid lock long be